14-13-2 project on ebay
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NC74392
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It certainly sounds complete. The wing spars are a worry, but if someone was willing to repair/ re-skin them, I feel one could have a really good-looking aircraft for about $15,000. Imagine- flying at an average of 130 mph for only $15K 
1) Initial purchase $1000
2) Teardown/ repairs $2000
3) Recover/ repaint $6000
4) engine overhaul $4000
5) miscellaneous i.e. new control cables, tal light, strobes, etc $2000
Total $15,000 to get airborne again. Now if you want to add a GPS COM and other goodies, let's add about $14,000 to that. If your sole objective is to fly, then $15K ought to do it IMO. 8)
1) Initial purchase $1000
2) Teardown/ repairs $2000
3) Recover/ repaint $6000
4) engine overhaul $4000
5) miscellaneous i.e. new control cables, tal light, strobes, etc $2000
Total $15,000 to get airborne again. Now if you want to add a GPS COM and other goodies, let's add about $14,000 to that. If your sole objective is to fly, then $15K ought to do it IMO. 8)
planebones
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I put my 80% complete/ 60% to go Cruisair project on Barnstormers the other day.......(I must confess my sins) ...I bought a gear upped Mooney M20C.........please forgive me fellow Bellancophiles Planebones
Jonathan Baron
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Damn it, Bones! Oops...that sounds a bit like the original Star Trek. From McCoy's point of view it would be more like "Damn it, Jim! I'm a pilot, not an archeologist." For those of you who never watched Star Trek, my apologies.
Lots of old airplane lovers "diss" Mooneys but Al Mooney was among those few rare geniuses of early aviation. Hell, as a high school kid, hanging around the airport, he told Alexander Eaglerock that his Swallow was out of rig. It took careful measurements by Eaglerock's guys back at his shop to prove the kid was right. He hired a then 18 year old Al Mooney. Not to sweep up but to redesign the wing of the signature aircraft we nowadays call simply "an Eaglerock." Yesterday the New York columnist David Brooks wrote a piece dismissing the notion of genius...said the stuff Mozart's wrote as a kid was just recycled bits he'd heard here and there, and similar parcels in a truckload of crap. Sorry Mr. Brooks, but there was nothing for Al to recycle except bad airfoils. Comparing Wolfgang Mozart to Al Mooney would be absurd to most people, but most people are not pilots.
Mooney worked with Bellanca on the Airbus/Aircruiser project: an astonishing achievement in efficiency transcending its era.
In short, a Mooney cannot go where a Cruisair can go, but it can go long before a Cruisair project can.
Shakespeare could have been speaking of the kind of devotion you need to stick with a near endless Cruisair restoration project when he wrote his Sonnet 116:
Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments; love is not true love
Which alters when it alteration finds (check that paperwork, boys)
Or bends with the remover to remove (yep, more is broken than you thought)
O no, it is an ever-fixed mark (ya gotta be really obsessed to stick with it in many cases)
That looks on tempests and is never shaken; (and I really mean obsessed)
It is that star to every wand'ring bark, (I said I want a CRUISAIR damnit)
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken. (It’s not worth much, except to you)
Loves's not Time's fool, (but sometimes it takes a fool to spend the time)
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks, (try to explain that to your wife)
But bears it out even to the edge of doom. (oops…she’s not buying it)
In short, nobody can blame anybody for saying farewell to a Triple Tail in favor of something less soul inspiring but flies with just normal human effort applied.
Please don’t vanish though, Bones…sh*t, I’m a fine one to talk about that.
Jonathan
Lots of old airplane lovers "diss" Mooneys but Al Mooney was among those few rare geniuses of early aviation. Hell, as a high school kid, hanging around the airport, he told Alexander Eaglerock that his Swallow was out of rig. It took careful measurements by Eaglerock's guys back at his shop to prove the kid was right. He hired a then 18 year old Al Mooney. Not to sweep up but to redesign the wing of the signature aircraft we nowadays call simply "an Eaglerock." Yesterday the New York columnist David Brooks wrote a piece dismissing the notion of genius...said the stuff Mozart's wrote as a kid was just recycled bits he'd heard here and there, and similar parcels in a truckload of crap. Sorry Mr. Brooks, but there was nothing for Al to recycle except bad airfoils. Comparing Wolfgang Mozart to Al Mooney would be absurd to most people, but most people are not pilots.
Mooney worked with Bellanca on the Airbus/Aircruiser project: an astonishing achievement in efficiency transcending its era.
In short, a Mooney cannot go where a Cruisair can go, but it can go long before a Cruisair project can.
Shakespeare could have been speaking of the kind of devotion you need to stick with a near endless Cruisair restoration project when he wrote his Sonnet 116:
Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments; love is not true love
Which alters when it alteration finds (check that paperwork, boys)
Or bends with the remover to remove (yep, more is broken than you thought)
O no, it is an ever-fixed mark (ya gotta be really obsessed to stick with it in many cases)
That looks on tempests and is never shaken; (and I really mean obsessed)
It is that star to every wand'ring bark, (I said I want a CRUISAIR damnit)
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken. (It’s not worth much, except to you)
Loves's not Time's fool, (but sometimes it takes a fool to spend the time)
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks, (try to explain that to your wife)
But bears it out even to the edge of doom. (oops…she’s not buying it)
In short, nobody can blame anybody for saying farewell to a Triple Tail in favor of something less soul inspiring but flies with just normal human effort applied.
Please don’t vanish though, Bones…sh*t, I’m a fine one to talk about that.
Jonathan
NC74392
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Funny how things you say and do always return to you. Margaret and I had Sonnet 116 printed on the back of our wedding bulletins. I also sang these with Johnson High Chorale back in the day in a set called "Three Sonnets" by a woman composer whose name now escapes me.
Are all pilots musically-inclined :?:
Welcome back Jonathan
p.s. Where's the part "Though rosy lips and cheeks"? That has to be the original Vermilion paint on 392.
Are all pilots musically-inclined :?:
Welcome back Jonathan
p.s. Where's the part "Though rosy lips and cheeks"? That has to be the original Vermilion paint on 392.
Gary Brink
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No, not all pilots are musically inclined. A few,including myself, have a hard enough time playing the radio. 
Gary
Gary
Jonathan Baron
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Dang, DD, you caught me on the rosy lips and cheeks omission...as with the Saint Crispin's Day speech from Henry the Fifth I used to cheer on the Triple Tail Tour notion, I confess that I had the gall to edit the great bard 
planebones
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Dear Bellancopiles: Jonathan:Thanks for the encouragement to hang around. The chance of selling my Cruisair project is remote anyway.....the tribe of us that love old things, and not even remotely instant gratification is shrinking. At 55 (young for a Bellanca lover) I realize that if I don't get a flying airplane soon I never will get to enjoy the reason I want one. I have my grandpa's 47' IHC pickup he ordered in WW2, and still maintain my dad's managery of 40-s & 50-s farm machinery on the ranch in Eastern Colorado, so love all nostalgic old machines, The Bellanca projects take tremendous self discipline and tenacity to get done. My dad is still ranching at 87 on the place he came to from Iowa at 13 years old , and is dedicated to still be pulling calves in blizzards at 100.....so I hope to use this here Mooney M-20C to fly the 3.3 hours from Driggs ID (near Jackson Hole) to COS whenever I can slip away to go punch cows and tweek balers. A 14-19-2 is the plane for the high altitude west.....they make the 13,000' rocks seem a lot shorter than they feel in a 180hp Mooney or cruisair.......so..... Between bouts of busyness, being broke, lazy, disouraged at lack of progress, frustrated at the FAA for not letting us upgraded our Bellancas properly, etc.....I will (Lord willing) get the Crusisair done. If anyone is out this way stop in for encouragement ....Ken (planebones) 307-699-0087